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Susan Daniels's avatar

We will never again trust the government.

Mike Ellis's avatar

The New York Crimes! The fish wrap of record 🐟

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

“The White House knew the cause the night it happened, a US Navy missile misfire.” Misfire is not the correct word to use here. A misfire would mean the missile didn’t fire. Nevertheless, as a former Navy combat system technician, I am unable to accept a Navy SM2 as the cause without more information/documentation/evidence than what I’ve seen thus far. Not saying it didn’t or couldn’t. Just being skeptical.

W. A. Samuel's avatar

There were many eyewitnesses that saw a missile hit TWA 800. See the newspaper article photo in this post. If the FBI could perform a cover-up, certainly the U.S. Navy could as well (at the direction of others).

STEVE MADISON's avatar

My thesis is that it was no accident. Maybe reparations for the Iranian Air 655 shootdown. Maybe something else...

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

I concur. Unlike investigators, FBI, etc., I don’t discount all the eyewitness testimony.

Rick Janes's avatar

Steve, your thesis is chillingly similar to the terrifying plotline in Sidney Lumet’s thriller Fail Safe.

Is such a thing possible? With Bill Clinton in the White House…

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STEVE MADISON's avatar

Since I am a nobody from nowhere Texas and have no access to any government secrets, or human intelligence that might provide it, my evidence would have to be constructed by the Inductive Reasoning process which would provide probable, not definitive conclusions. To start, a matrix would need to be constructed, logging a spectrum of notable incidents from the Clinton-Rodham-Clinton dual presidency. When we put them into a spreadsheet, My guess is that patterns will emerge. The sort of event I'm thinking of could be the 2003 theft of classified documents from the National Archive by Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, the suicide of Vince Foster, the government aggression against the hapless Christians in Waco, Texas and the FBI squelching of the public reports of John Doe 2, the accomplice of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City...or I suppose, I could just ask Chat GPT. Maybe that's the thing for us all Mr. Jack: Ask the commercially available AI sources and start the matrix there. Results could be fun and repeatable...Happy Tuesday!

Rick Janes's avatar

Take a look at Executive Order 13039, signed by Bill Clinton, which removed the Federal whistleblower protections for members of the Navy Special Weapons Development Group — what was the impetus for its creation, and timing? Why is EO 13039 still active, other than to muzzle those who might speak up?

TheLastBattleStation's avatar

That executive order applies to USC title 5, chapter 71 and covers labor management relations for civilian federal employees. The order added DEVGRU, aka Seal Team 6, to a long list of intelligence agencies and subdivisions of those agencies, added by other executive orders, declared exempt from the provisions of chapter 71 in its entirety. It’s a non sequitur. Moreover, DEVGRU would not have been involved in any kind of surface to air missile exercise. One thing is certain; nothing in the government’s story of what happened is true.

tommy m's avatar

I was listening to the radio 📻 one day and a man called up on the anniversary of the crash. He was one of the NYC police dept scuba divers who recovered the wreakage...he didn't call to talk about the cause of the crash and didn't discuss it at all. Just wanted to remember the dead. But at the end of a five minute discussion the host asked him just one question with no follow up...." Were we told the truth about what happened "....his one word answer was .....

." NO "......

Gladiator's avatar

Eyewitnesses were definitely stunned by what they saw. The stories were different, but many did point out that they felt like they saw "a flare of fireworks" heading in the direction of the jetliner before it exploded. Many assumed that it was a "missile" or a "rocket

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/445138/the-tragic-true-story-of-twa-flight-800/

Navy testing new missle tech at the time per books/ articles. Shoulder launch is a longshot. No explosives residue found. Smells like a coverup.

Sue Kelley's avatar

Maybe the answer to why lies in who was on the plane or someone related to a passenger on the plane?

Sue Kelley's avatar

I often wonder if Hell will be populated by a who's who of the US government.

Rick Janes's avatar

"Our source was The New York Times."

- Russian Ambassador de Sadesky, in Dr. Strangelove

STEVE MADISON's avatar

Pavlov would not have been surprised.