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John Kirsch's avatar

A documentary on Netflix glided over the question of how Epstein, who apparently came from modest circumstances, got so rich.

Was he really that good at JP Morgan? I got the sense that there was more to the story. There usually is.

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Jack Cashill's avatar

Yes, more to the story.

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URsomoney's avatar

He was a teacher at a private school. The next step into big finance is suspect. Listen to the martyr made substack (Daryl cooper) the Epstein files - 4 parts that he opened to the public.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Follow the money …. Note that no one will do this.

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Donna Grebas's avatar

Those girls in Epstein's "stable" kept coming back for the money. They were nothing but teenage prostitutes.

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Beans's avatar

I am appalled by your reply, Donna. These girls were targeted exactly because they were poor or in undesirable conditions. Young women in these situations are incredibly easy to manipulate and they will keep coming back . That is exactly why they’re easy targets. Quite similar the the Pakistani gang rapes in England, only not as posh.

Your attitude is abhorrent. Kind of like Hillary Clinton. She always said she was an advocate for women. Make me laugh out loud.

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Beans's avatar

I am appalled by your comment. These were girls that were targeted because of their circumstances.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yall miss the point. The fact that they were teenage prostitutes, as you claim, means nothing. The fact that there are men in places of power the world over that are on record somewhere, wanted to fuck underage girls,is the point. And getting that on film, was the key.

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HEIDI's avatar

ya'll miss the point the prostitutes were there voluntarily, even if some lied about being 18 to benefit financially, they were prostitutes & subject to prosecution.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

Out of curiosity, i loked up the age of consent in London is and found the following: "In London, and across the United Kingdom, the age of consent is 16 years old. This means that anyone 16 years or older can legally consent to sexual activity. However, there are exceptions to this rule, particularly when a person in a position of trust is involved with someone under 18."

Giuffre was 17; Prince Andrew should have waited for her birthday.

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P.L. Travers's avatar

I disagree very strongly with your statement about Prince Andrew, “the photos suggest otherwise”. There is nothing incriminating in the only photo, a snapshot, in which all three people - Andrew, the accuser, and Ghislaine Maxwell - are fully clothed. The accuser is standing next to Andrew, beaming at the camera (which means that an unidentified fourth person, the photographer, was in the room). Andrew has his arm around her in a typical celebrity-with-fan pose. Similar types of photos are affixed to the walls and mirrors of countless bars, barbershops and pizzerias here and in Britain. If standing next to someone in a snapshot were evidence of a crime, almost every celebrity in the world could be accused of predation.

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Whitehall's avatar

Thank you for pointing out that the important question, the one to be asked first, is who killed Epstein?

Epstein was in the business of temptation. Acting on an invitation is not in and of itself a moral or legal transgression. I can see arriving on an isolated island and being shocked by the next level of the temptations and not indulging. Escape would be difficult from the island both socially and physically. If the only evidence is a flight log, then we'll need to presume an invitee innocent until more substantial evidence is available.

But find the murders (if it was a murder) first.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

The medium is the massage. Classic.

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Donna in MO's avatar

So, what of the theory that Epstein was a spook, and thus protected? He no longer had value behind bars.

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Rick Janes's avatar

Powerful and corrupt personages have probably had access to any incriminating Epstein files for a very long time, so how much resemblance they now have to actual events is anyone’s guess. I would not be surprised at all if the remaining files contained <5% real fruit juice.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Virginia’s stories often checked out. I wouldn’t give up on this book. It could be the blockbuster of all time.

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Tim's avatar

CIA.

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Stephanie Williams's avatar

And yet, you named names. And all/most were powerful Jews...

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HEIDI's avatar

Wouldn't they have to prosecute the prostitutes as well as the 'john's'? Would not be a good look.

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jennifer dibley's avatar

I’m telling you I have a Mandela effect moment I know I saw a live video taken during Jan6 that showed secret service escorting Epstein -dressed in casual clothes and a ball cap- in the Capitol buliding just as the riot erupted and they lost him in the crowd I know I saw it. He was alive Can you imagine the blowback on that story if it can be proven?

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Doug Ross's avatar

Jack, did you read Giuffre's autobiography? Fascinating glimpse into a sick and demented world that defies explanation.

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Jack Cashill's avatar

Have not, will check it out.

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Doug Ross's avatar

Have a copy in case you need it.

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